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Forget Vista.

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Forget Vista.

Postby benluby on Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:35 am

I have had enough. New computer, all the updates I can think of, and Vista still blows. I am going to upgrade to XP.
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Re: Forget Vista.

Postby santa on Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:56 pm

benluby wrote:I have had enough. New computer, all the updates I can think of, and Vista still blows. I am going to upgrade to XP.


Get imaging software, like Acronis $50. Make an image of your Vista setup so you can restore it easily (you may want it later, especially after the service pack comes out ...very soon...and you already bought the license.). Check with the co. you bought the pc from...MS is offerring a fully licensed set of XP install disks for $50 to anyone who wants to downgrade...your pc manuf. might have that deal available) Good luck. I did the same thing (although I have to admit, my Thinkpad T61 dual core 7500 handled Vista pretty well....just didnt want all the memory overhead associated with the Vista graphics....in fact, I've been playing with nLite which allows you to strip out all the XP junk you never use and create a really small footprint install...what I've been doing is running VMware to run two different virtual pc's on my desktop...but the main desktop doesn't need a full copy of XP and why not free the memory up for the VM's? It's pretty cool....and secure...you might want to take a look at that while you're playing around.
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Postby benluby on Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:41 am

I'll get in touch with them and see. I'd love to save some money on it. I am sick of waiting on updates.
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Postby Blue1 on Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:09 pm

By next year XP will not be supported by MS anymore. Sometime before then Vista should have most of the bugs worked out... :roll: Other than that...what Santa said... :lol:
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Postby Steve Owen on Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:47 pm

Blue1 wrote:By next year XP will not be supported by MS anymore. Sometime before then Vista should have most of the bugs worked out... :roll: Other than that...what Santa said... :lol:


Blue, I don't believe that is correct. MS will not sell XP after June of 2008, but I believe support goes until 2013. Interesting side note, I just read an article the other day that they have revised the "won't sell after June of 2008" policy vis a vis hand held devices.
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Postby Ter Shields on Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:40 pm

MS will not sell XP after June of 2008, but I believe support goes until 2013

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Postby M L on Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:47 pm

Appreciate the notice Ter, guess I'll be upgrading my lap top in June... I love XP, don't want to change.
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Postby Ken Jackson on Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:01 am

Yep I like XP Professional to.

Now let me see I think .......it was after Windows 3, 3.1, 95, 95Lite, 98, 98Second Edition, 2000............and now Bill seriously thinks we love him and want Vista and its successor!!

I dont know anybody who likes Vista. Have meet heaps of people who feel like killing Gates and his propellor head programming cronnies for this retro-grade product.

Pull your head out of the sand Bill we are sooooo over you and your Beta Version Products!!!!
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Postby Steve Owen on Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:58 am

What my computer guy tells me is that MS is well aware of the market resistance to Vista and is rushing release of its replacement. We'll see. Otherwise, my next new set-up may be a MAC. BTW, I've been told that the new MAC actually runs XP faster than any Windows machine.
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Postby Ken Jackson on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:37 am

Thanks for the "heads up" on that one Steve.
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Postby Joker on Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:08 am

I've tried Vista on my buddy's notebook. I wouldn't trade my XP Pro for Vista unless I was paid a substantial sum of money. Vista is slow and appears to be a memory hog.
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Postby Jim Plante on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:52 am

Steve, buying a Mac and running XP on it is still running Windows. You'll still have all the problems (if any) with XP that you have running it in a Dell or HP. You'll also have the additional overhead of having to buy Parallels or VMWare Fusion. (About $80). (Don't go for Boot Camp.)

But you'll have a much cooler computer, and can exercise your right to be an elitist snob like me.
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Postby Steve Owen on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:01 pm

True, Jim, but it is only running Windows on part of the machine. The idea is that you can buy a Mac, but still run Windows if there is some application you cannot get for Leopard.
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Postby Jim Plante on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:06 pm

A couple of apps you may want to keep:
Internet Explorer -- many MLS's won't work on anything else.
Streets and trips -- no comparable mac app
Map Point -- no comparable mac app.

National Geographic's Topo! is available for the mac now. And you can always use Google's maps.

There is virtually NO appraisal software that will run under Mac OS. For commercial appraisals, you can use Appraiser's Paradise (web based). But I just use a plain old word processor. But most all of them (WinTotal and ACI for sure) will run under Parallels.
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Postby Steve Owen on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:14 pm

I understand that Bradford and Robbins has a Mac appraisal software, but I don't know much about it. I do commercial reports in WordPerfect. I am just guessing here, but I'd bet that it will run better as a Mac app than as a Windows app, since it is well documented that MS put back doors in it's software to try and stymie WP and make MS Word more popular.
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