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Testing for CE credit
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Do you favor requiring tests for CE credit?
Yes
50%
 50%  [ 8 ]
No
50%
 50%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 16

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Jay Trotta
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st off I'm in total agreement with Edd

If and When someone can decide to introduce new and rewarding class material CEU's are a waste, haven't taken a class of different total material in over 20 years. It's repeted way to often and there isn't sufficient changes in material to warrant the demand for CEU's in the short amount of time required. The States take advantage of the requirement only to capture "pork barrel" excess, ifn anyone can find out where all those funds go....... Wink

Testing......haaa, just because you can pass a Test, doesn't mean you actually know any more - some folk are good Testers, others may strugle but have a greater knowledge overall - how would a Test note the difference Question

It's almost like saying AVM's provide quality information Shocked 100% of the time Rolling Eyes

There may be so many quality "Test Takers", that working against the rules of mankind has left it's mark, worldwide Cool

The number of college gradjiates will soon reach the number of active attorneys, after all aren't we really Purchasing the sheepskin Question Does anyone know the number of College flunkies, Senior year Question
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Steve Owen
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted "no." But, that does not mean that I am entirely against the idea... just that I would need to add some qualifiers in order to vote "yes." In other words, I am against testing for CE credit under the current paradigm.

What I would support is allowing a wider variety of classwork to qualify for CE. So, for example, an appraiser who feels weak on business communication or writing, should be able to make an improvement by taking coursework on that subject an applying it to CE. Of course, that will never happen under the present regime... the state boards are too closely linked with CE providers.

Much of the CE being offered today is just plain garbage. Not only is the information useless... a lot of it is not even correct! I have had to suffer through numerous courses where the instructor knew less than myself. I have had to suffer through other courses where the instructor had little or no field experience and on more than a few occasions was teaching because of the inability to do. Even when I have found good instructors (and there are many) the individual bias of that person's experience often translates to the classroom.

CE is nothing more than a necessary evil. Testing for it would add insult to injury.
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Jrs at OBX
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporate Lackey wrote:
When I take a course/seminar/class, whatever, I want to freaking LEARN something!!!!! When I have taught, it seems that only a minority are actually there to learn, or even want to learn as part of obtaining some hours on their rear.


I agree. The last USPAP class I took discussed USPAP for less than an hour. I wouldn't have too much of a problem if I was just picking a class to get my required hours. I've even taken a couple of CE classes that I knew wouldn't have much substance. When I take a USPAP class I expect to learn USPAP. IT'S FREEKING IMPORTANT FOR ME TO LEARN USPAP IN MY USPAP UPDATE CLASS!!!!

If tests were required, some of the teachers would be forced to stay on topic. The sad thing is that my CE choices are limited without travel and an overnight hotel stay.
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